Person Sheet


Name Elizabeth McNutt235, Tuesday, May 5, 1840, DIED, In this village on the 2d inst., Mrs. Chestney, see McNutt file,218, In file., M253, F
Birth Date BET 1762 AND 1763
Death Date 2 May 1840 Age: 78
Death Place Saratoga Springs, Saratoga County, New York
Death Memo I had December 2, 1840 with a ?. This was changed per below on , December 20, 1998 because the Elizabeth must be James W.'s mother., , "Elizabeth Chestney died May 2 1840 aged 77 years.", Scrapbooks of Cornelius Durkee, per email from:, , Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:00:25 -0500, "Lynn E. Calvin" <lynn-n-suzy-calvin@worldnet.att.net>, , Entire email unparsed is in file and James W.'s name card.
Undefined Date aft 2 May 1840 Age: 78
Undefined Place Whitford Cemetery, Saratoga Springs, Saratoga County, New York
Undefined Memo Buried
Death Date 2 May 1840 Age: 78
Death Place Saratoga Springs, Saratoga County, New York
Death Memo I had December 2, 1840 with a ?. This was changed per below o, n , December 20, 1998 because the Elizabeth must be James W.'s m, other., , "Elizabeth Chestney died May 2 1840 aged 77 years.", S, crapbooks of Cornelius Durkee, per email from:, , Fri, 18 Dec 19, 98 11:00:25 -0500, "Lynn E. Calvin" <lynn-n-suzy-calvin@worldnet, .att.net>, , Entire email unparsed is in file and James W.'s nam, e card.
Burial Date aft 2 May 1840
Burial Place Whitford Cemetery, Saratoga Springs, Saratoga County, New York
Spouses
1 William Chestney174, Pages 101-102, 101-102 (see Chestney file), Albany County Militia - Third Regiment, Colonel Philip P. Schuyler, Lieut. Col. Barent I. Staats, Major Abraham D. Fonda, Adjutant John P. Quackenboss, Q'R Master Christopher Lansing, * * * * *, ENLISTED MEN,234, Pages 86-88`, 86-88, Roll of Colonel Philip P. Schuyler's Regiment, Not sure it's him, but 90%, C235, M
Birth Date bef 1770
Birth Place England
Undefined Date 2 Sep 1785 Age: 15
Undefined Place New York
Undefined Memo Philip Schuyler's Regiment New York /Militia/, C Philip Schuyler's Reg't. N.Y. Militia, , William Chestney, , Appears as shown below on a Receipt Roll* under the following , heading:, , "We whose names are hereunder written do acknowledge to have received , of Cap. Leviniss F. Lansingh of Military the sum set opposit to or , respecttive names in certificates sigened by Geiaid Bancer, Treasuer , of the State of New York, being for service performed as militiar man , in the course of the late war.", , (Revolutionary War.), , Roll dated - not dated, 17 ., , 1785 September 2 Recd [the] sum of three pounds seven shillings & , seven pence L3 7 7, , William Chestney, , * From copy (made in the R. & P. Office, War Dept., in Oct., 1896.) , of an original record borrowed from the State of New York. -- R. & P. , 454,712., , Number of Record 10 Chandler copyist., , , Card Number 37252485, Book mark R & P 454.712, , from Nat'l Archives, _________, 12/22/98 nothing in NA on pension - suggested stat
Residence Date 1790179 Age: 20
Residence Place Watervliet, Albany County, New York
Death Date 22 OCT 1799?
Occupation Weaver
Father Alexander Chesney, M (ca1727-)
Mother Jane McMolly, F (1727-1814)
Marriage Date 6 Feb 1787187,236
Marriage Place First Presbyterian Church, Albany, Albany County, New York
Children Nancy C., F (1787-)
Alexander, M (1789-)
Elizabeth, F (1791-)
Cornelia, F (1794-)
James W., M (1797-1843)
Notes for Elizabeth McNutt
Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:09:30 -0500
"William H. McNitt" <william.mcnitt@fordlib.nara.gov>


Charles,

Besides proximity, one of the reasons you may believe that your
Elizabeth belongs to the Salem, NY branch of the family is because so
little is known of the daughters in that family. I don't have any
proven daughters of Alexander McNitt/McNutt and his wife Elizabeth of
Salem, but do have the following three who might be daughters:

1. Margaret m. 24 Sept 1778 to James Bolton
2. Elizabeth (1761-1835) m. William Rogers
3. Sarah m. 10 August 1786 to Alexander Bolton

Obviously, if the Elizabeth who married William Rogers really was a
daughter of Alexander and Elizabeth that would make it extremely
unlikely that your Elizabeth fits into this family. William Rogers
was the brother of Mary Rogers who married Alexander and Elizabeth's
son Daniel. One source says that William Rogers married a daughter
of Daniel, but given her age she could not have been a daughter but
might have been a sister.

Bill McNitt
______________
March 1, 1999
Received a letter some time ago from historian in Salem, New York.
Some information on McNitt/McNutt. It seems that Captain Alexander
McNitt in Salen 1720-1817 might be a candidate for father, his wife
was Elizabeth. Also could be one of Alexander's sons being the
father: John, Andrew, David, John. Some others listed as in file.
Inquiry sent to historian re wills. Will also post to McNutt site.
Misc. Notes
Surnames listed McNitt, McNutt, McNill
___________________
Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:09:30 -0500
"William H. McNitt" <william.mcnitt@fordlib.nara.gov>


Charles,

Besides proximity, one of the reasons you may believe that your
Elizabeth belongs to the Salem, NY branch of the family is because so
little is known of the daughters in that family. I don't have any
proven daughters of Alexander McNitt/McNutt and his wife Elizabeth of
Salem, but do have the following three who might be daughters:

1. Margaret m. 24 Sept 1778 to James Bolton
2. Elizabeth (1761-1835) m. William Rogers
3. Sarah m. 10 August 1786 to Alexander Bolton

Obviously, if the Elizabeth who married William Rogers really was a
daughter of Alexander and Elizabeth that would make it extremely
unlikely that your Elizabeth fits into this family. William Rogers
was the brother of Mary Rogers who married Alexander and Elizabeth's
son Daniel. One source says that William Rogers married a daughter
of Daniel, but given her age she could not have been a daughter but
might have been a sister.

Bill McNitt
______________
March 1, 1999
Received a letter some time ago from historian in Salem, New York.
Some information on McNitt/McNutt. It seems that Captain Alexander
McNitt in Salen 1720-1817 might be a candidate for father, his wife
was Elizabeth. Also could be one of Alexander's sons being the
father: John, Andrew, David, John. Some others listed as in file.
Inquiry sent to historian re wills. Will also post to McNutt site.
Research
MacNot, Widow (#00356)
Free White Females 45 etc.: 1
Slaves: 6

1810 Scencteday Census
Military Notes for William (Spouse 1)
No pension records from NARA

Check state records?
Misc. Notes
DEATH RECORDS OF THE COLUMBIA REFORMED CHURCH
TOWN OF
COLUMBIA
HERKIMER
COUNTY, N.Y.

CHESTNEY, John, D. 10-7-1838, 83 yr.
CHESTNEY, Elizabeth, D. 12-1-1864, 70 yr.
CHESTNEY, Jane, D. 12-29-1814, 87 yr., Hus. Alexander




T.O. Chestney in Civil War
______________________________

Father may be Alexander Chestney,

From mom, moved from England to Ireland temporarily?

Per Ancestry.com database, one Kattrin Chestney listed, d. bef 3 nov
1625 in Martham Norfolkshire England
_____________
Not sure if the same William Chestney, but pretty sure:
Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:20:59 -0500
"Rogers B. Finch" <ka2hsu@juno.com>

The roll of Colonel Philip P Schuyler's Regiment can be found on
pages 86-88 of "New York in the Revolution as Colony and State" by
James A. Roberts, Comptroller,(Albany: 1897). I read somewhere
recently that this book is being republished. William Chestney is
listed as an Enlisted man. The Captain's name was given as Levinis
Lansingh.

The original documents from which Roberts obtained in his information
may be in the State Archives in Albany. Roberts copied some if not
all that were available and placed them with the (then) War
Department in Washington. These are probably the same ones you quoted
in your query.

Rogers

Rogers B. Finch
12 Sherwood Road
Little Silver NJ 07739-1309
e-mail: ka2hsu@juno.com
______________________
Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:10:21, -0500
XRWP46A@prodigy.com (MR ROBERT W DESIO)


Contact Richard Beresford at the Saratoga National Hoistorical Park
______________________
Sun, 7 Feb 1999 20:47:13 -0500
"Nancy J. Curran" <nancycurran@juno.com>


>Could you please check your references to see if any
CHESTNEY/CHESNEY or McCHESNEY entries are in the Ship Passenger
Lists.

Sorry, but neither is listed in the book's index.

>Where might I get a copy of this reference?
I bought it at a conference a few years ago. The address of the
author/compiler at the time was Carl Boyer 3rd, P.O. Box 333,
Newhall, Cal., 91322.
I'd think that Genealogical Publishing Co. or one of the other
genealogy dealers would have it, though. I have seen the McChesney
surname around here, by the way.

Nancy Johnsen Curran
The Continuum
1868 Eastern Parkway
Schenectady NY 12309-6124
nancycurran@juno.com or nancycurran@prodigy.com
_______________
March 1, 1999
Received a letter some time ago from historian in Salem, New York.
No real information on Chestney or Chesney. Except John McChesney in
Hebron 1790 census.

March 1, 1999
Received letter from Albany County Hall of Record, Albany County
Clerk dated February 2, 1999.

- no listings in indexes to wills from 1780 and Letters of
Administration from 1794

- no listings in History of Albany County 1609 to 1886 and Hudson-
Mohawk Genealogical.

- some listings in Annals of Albany for supposed brother James (which
gives some indication of date of birth ie 1750s) as well as in
indexes to Grantor and Index to Grantee for James and a John I wife
Christina (James' son?)

no follow up planned
___________________
From letter 26 OCt 1998 Harry Chesney

The name CHESNEY has its origins in Normandy (France) and translates
as by or near an Oak grove. The first CHESNEY ancestor recorded in
this Country was Radulphus (or Ralph) de Caisned who in 1086 held
land, in Norfolk amd Sussex, as an undertenant of William de Warenne.
de Waranne is know to have been at the Battle of Hastings (1066),
and it is quite possible that Ralph was there also. Almost a Century
later Robert de Chesney was the 4th Bishop of Lincoln. Many of our
family lines can be traced back to Norfolk.

CHESTENEY listed as name variant.
Misc. Notes
Subject: Re: PML Search Result matching CHESTNEY or chesney
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:34:24 -0000
From: "Stephen Longhorn" <s.longhorn@virgin.net>
To: "Charles Mudd" <muddhaven@earthlink.net>

Hi Charles,

If you would like to send me some details I will see if they match with what I have at present. The only problem I have with my Chestney`s at present is my Grandfather:- I am unable to find a birth, marriage or death certificate for him although I know where he died at. I am at present still waiting for more info as to why I cannot obtain these certificates. Any details or help you can provided with be most valuable to me.

Thanks
Steve
_______________________________
Subject: Re: CHESTNEY family
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 14:29:27 -0400
From: "Herkimer Cty Historical Soc" <hchs@mvip.net>
To: "Charles Mudd" <muddhaven@earthlink.net>

I honestly don't feel there is information here oon the named Chestney. The places I've checked in the previous e-mail didn't show that name at all. The only places left to check are county histories and town histories, Wills and Letters of Administration.

Susan R. Perkins
Herkimer County Historical Society
hchs@mvip.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Charles Mudd <muddhaven@earthlink.net>
To: Herkimer Cty Historical Soc <hchs@mvip.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: CHESTNEY family
_______________________
Subject: Re: CHESTNEY family
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 08:38:51 -0400
From: "Herkimer Cty Historical Soc" <hchs@mvip.net>
To: "Charles Mudd" <muddhaven@earthlink.net>

Dear Charles:

The cemetery records were checked and we have the same information you do. The name Chestney is not in our family files, newspaper marriages or obituaries and the census records.

You may want to contact the Town of Columbia, Town Historian, Doris O. Huxtable, 597 Millers Mills Road, West Winfield, NY 13491 (315) 822-5281.

IF you still want us to check further send the $30.00 for up to 3 hours of research to the Herkimer County Historical Society, 400 North Main Street, Herkimer, NY 13350.

Susan R. Perkins
Herkimer County Historical Society
hchs@mvip.net

----- Original Message -----
From: Charles Mudd <muddhaven@earthlink.net>
To: <hchs@mvip.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 2:15 PM
Subject: CHESTNEY family


> Recently I learned that three Chestney family members were buried at the
> COLUMBIA REFORMED CHURCH, TOWN OF COLUMBIA, HERKIMER COUNTY, N.Y. These
> specific listings are:
>
> CHESTNEY, John, D. 10-7-1838, 83 yr.
> CHESTNEY, Elizabeth, D. 12-1-1864, 70 yr.
> CHESTNEY, Jane, D. 12-29-1814, 87 yr., Hus. Alexander
>
> I would like to engage your research services of up to 3 hours for $30.
> Particularly, are there any family histories? Would I be so lucky as to
> have there be obituaries? Your help would be most appreciated.
_____________________________
DEATH RECORDS OF THE COLUMBIA REFORMED CHURCH
TOWN OF
COLUMBIA
HERKIMER
COUNTY, N.Y.

CHESTNEY, John, D. 10-7-1838, 83 yr.
CHESTNEY, Elizabeth, D. 12-1-1864, 70 yr.
CHESTNEY, Jane, D. 12-29-1814, 87 yr., Hus. Alexander




T.O. Chestney in Civil War
______________________________

Father may be Alexander Chestney,

From mom, moved from England to Ireland temporarily?

Per Ancestry.com database, one Kattrin Chestney listed, d. bef 3 nov
1625 in Martham Norfolkshire England
_____________
Not sure if the same William Chestney, but pretty sure:
Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:20:59 -0500
"Rogers B. Finch" <ka2hsu@juno.com>

The roll of Colonel Philip P Schuyler's Regiment can be found on
pages 86-88 of "New York in the Revolution as Colony and State" by
James A. Roberts, Comptroller,(Albany: 1897). I read somewhere
recently that this book is being republished. William Chestney is
listed as an Enlisted man. The Captain's name was given as Levinis
Lansingh.

The original documents from which Roberts obtained in his information
may be in the State Archives in Albany. Roberts copied some if not
all that were available and placed them with the (then) War
Department in Washington. These are probably the same ones you quoted
in your query.

Rogers

Rogers B. Finch
12 Sherwood Road
Little Silver NJ 07739-1309
e-mail: ka2hsu@juno.com
______________________
Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:10:21, -0500
XRWP46A@prodigy.com (MR ROBERT W DESIO)


Contact Richard Beresford at the Saratoga National Hoistorical Park
______________________
Sun, 7 Feb 1999 20:47:13 -0500
"Nancy J. Curran" <nancycurran@juno.com>


>Could you please check your references to see if any
CHESTNEY/CHESNEY or McCHESNEY entries are in the Ship Passenger
Lists.

Sorry, but neither is listed in the book's index.

>Where might I get a copy of this reference?
I bought it at a conference a few years ago. The address of the
author/compiler at the time was Carl Boyer 3rd, P.O. Box 333,
Newhall, Cal., 91322.
I'd think that Genealogical Publishing Co. or one of the other
genealogy dealers would have it, though. I have seen the McChesney
surname around here, by the way.

Nancy Johnsen Curran
The Continuum
1868 Eastern Parkway
Schenectady NY 12309-6124
nancycurran@juno.com or nancycurran@prodigy.com
_______________
March 1, 1999
Received a letter some time ago from historian in Salem, New York.
No real information on Chestney or Chesney. Except John McChesney in
Hebron 1790 census.

March 1, 1999
Received letter from Albany County Hall of Record, Albany County
Clerk dated February 2, 1999.

- no listings in indexes to wills from 1780 and Letters of
Administration from 1794

- no listings in History of Albany County 1609 to 1886 and Hudson-
Mohawk Genealogical.

- some listings in Annals of Albany for supposed brother James (which
gives some indication of date of birth ie 1750s) as well as in
indexes to Grantor and Index to Grantee for James and a John I wife
Christina (James' son?)

no follow up planned
___________________
From letter 26 OCt 1998 Harry Chesney

The name CHESNEY has its origins in Normandy (France) and translates
as by or near an Oak grove. The first CHESNEY ancestor recorded in
this Country was Radulphus (or Ralph) de Caisned who in 1086 held
land, in Norfolk amd Sussex, as an undertenant of William de Warenne.
de Waranne is know to have been at the Battle of Hastings (1066),
and it is quite possible that Ralph was there also. Almost a Century
later Robert de Chesney was the 4th Bishop of Lincoln. Many of our
family lines can be traced back to Norfolk.

CHESTENEY listed as name variant.
Research
Who is William in 1820 Albany census?



In Albany, per Albany County Clerk, No Chestney/Chesney in the following sources:237

Index to Wills
Letters of Administration
History of Albany County 169 to 1886
Hudson-Mohawk Genealogical
Naturalizations 1827- (too late)
Passenger lists 18220-1946 (too late)


Is this the same William Chesney in the Watervliet census of 1790? If so, who are the other adult males over 16?


FWM 16+, -16, FWF

280 McChesney Joseph 1 2 1
352 Chesney Alexander 3 - 3
364 Chesney William 4 1 2
Notes for William & Elizabeth (Family)

Hi Charles;
Niskayuna is in Schenectady County, but is a township which borders
Colonie which is Albany Co.
Tom
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